Podcast Summary: Planetary Health First, Mars Next - Bring a Friend Series: Reimagine Health Together
Speakers:
Norma - VP of Data and AI at Narnia, Entrepreneur in Residence at Yale Ventures, PhD Health Economist. Former Senior Director of Data Analytics at the American Hospital Association and worked with Anthem's new ventures.
Jacob Ryder - M.D., former CEO of Huddle Health and Circular Health, Deputy at the Office of National Coordinator (ONC), and consultant with health plans and startups. Also involved in early-stage startup venture funds.
Corbin Petro - Career in healthcare focusing on underserved populations, former CEO of a payer-provider joint venture, and founder of Eleanor Health. Currently advising multiple healthcare organizations and private equity firms.
Summary Points:
Introduction of Guests: Norma, Jacob, and Corbin are introduced with their respective backgrounds in healthcare, data, AI, and entrepreneurship.
Career Highlights:
Norma: Academic background, transitioned to data and technology roles, currently optimizing employee benefits at Narnia.
Jacob: Family doctor with a career in health and technology, worked at ONC, involved in startups and consulting.
Corbin: Focus on healthcare for vulnerable populations, ran a health plan, founded Eleanor Health, now advising organizations.
Healthcare Partnerships: Discussion on transforming healthcare systems from provider-focused to partnership-oriented models, emphasizing the need for re-educating providers to think proactively and longitudinally about patient care.
Provider Training: Debate on retraining providers vs. leveraging social and behavioral health providers. Emphasis on the importance of primary care and the challenges in changing provider incentives and training.
Community-Based Care: Highlighting the need for localized healthcare solutions, especially in underserved areas like McAllen, Texas, compared to urban centers like Philadelphia.
Trusted Broker Concept: Introduction of the idea of a trusted broker to manage social care networks, ensuring community-specific healthcare solutions that bridge the gap between different healthcare providers and payers.
Challenges in Healthcare Models: Discussion on the difficulty of scaling successful pilot programs like the PACE program due to local nuances and reimbursement models.
End-of-Life Care: Personal experiences shared about the challenges and emotional aspects of end-of-life care, advocating for better hospice and palliative care initiatives.
Behavioral Health and Addiction: Corbin shares insights from Eleanor Health, focusing on comprehensive care for addiction and mental health, and the importance of holistic, patient-centered approaches.
Primary Care Workforce: Addressing the shortage of primary care doctors and the need for better incentives and training for primary health providers.
Non-Clinical Workforce: Discussion on the role of non-clinical workers, such as social workers and community health workers, in filling gaps in the healthcare system and providing essential support services.
Data and AI in Healthcare: Emphasis on the importance of clean, reliable data for AI applications in healthcare. Caution advised regarding the rapid adoption of AI without proper data integrity and oversight.
Speakers' LinkedIn Profiles:
Norma:
LinkedIn: Norma's LinkedIn Profile
Bio: Norma is the VP of Data and AI at Narnia and an Entrepreneur in Residence at Yale Ventures. She has a PhD in Health Economics and extensive experience in data analytics and digital health ventures.
Jacob Ryder:
LinkedIn: Jacob Ryder's LinkedIn Profile
Bio: Jacob Ryder, M.D., has over 35 years of experience at the intersection of health and technology. He has served in various leadership roles, including as Deputy at the Office of National Coordinator and CEO of several healthcare organizations.
Corbin Petro:
LinkedIn: Corbin Petro's LinkedIn Profile
Bio: Corbin Petro is a healthcare executive with a focus on delivering better care to underserved populations. She founded Eleanor Health and is currently advising multiple healthcare organizations and private equity firms.
Insights from the Podcast:
Need for Holistic Healthcare Models:
Emphasis on integrating social, behavioral, and medical care.
Recognizing the role of non-clinical workforce in healthcare delivery.
Challenges in Scaling Successful Pilot Programs:
Difficulty in moving from pilot to widespread implementation.
Importance of local nuances and community-specific healthcare solutions.
Provider Training and Incentives:
Debate on retraining providers vs. leveraging existing social care networks.
Importance of re-educating providers to think longitudinally about patient care.
Data and AI in Healthcare:
Necessity for clean, reliable data for effective AI applications.
Potential and risks associated with rapid AI adoption in healthcare.
End-of-Life and Palliative Care:
Importance of better hospice and palliative care initiatives.
Personal experiences highlighting the emotional and practical challenges in end-of-life care.
Recommended Follow-Up Topics:
Expanding the Role of Non-Clinical Workers in Healthcare:
Exploring successful models and best practices for integrating non-clinical workforce.
Scaling Pilot Programs to National Models:
Strategies and policies for scaling successful healthcare pilots like PACE.
Innovations in Behavioral Health:
New approaches and technologies in addressing mental health and addiction.
AI and Data in Healthcare:
Ensuring data integrity and reliability in AI applications.
Future trends and ethical considerations in healthcare AI.
Value-Based Care Models:
Deep dive into successful value-based care models and their implementation.
Recommended Potential Follow-Up Speakers:
Healthcare Policy Experts:
Len Nichols: Health policy expert known for his work on healthcare reform and the concept of trusted brokers.
LinkedIn: Len Nichols
Elizabeth Fowler: Executive Vice President for Programs at The Commonwealth Fund, with a focus on health policy.
LinkedIn: Elizabeth Fowler
Leaders in Behavioral Health:
Dr. Nzinga Harrison: Chief Medical Officer of Eleanor Health, an expert in addiction medicine and mental health.
LinkedIn: Dr. Nzinga Harrison
Tom Insel: Former Director of the National Institute of Mental Health, now focusing on mental health startups.
LinkedIn: Tom Insel
AI and Data Experts in Healthcare:
Dr. Eric Topol: Cardiologist and digital medicine researcher, known for his work on the impact of AI in healthcare.
LinkedIn: Dr. Eric Topol
Dr. Vivian Lee: President of Health Platforms at Verily Life Sciences, expert in data and AI in healthcare.
LinkedIn: Dr. Vivian Lee
Palliative and End-of-Life Care Specialists:
Dr. Atul Gawande: Surgeon, writer, and public health leader known for his work on end-of-life care.
LinkedIn: Dr. Atul Gawande
Dr. Ira Byock: Palliative care physician, author, and advocate for improving end-of-life care.
LinkedIn: Dr. Ira Byock
Value-Based Care Innovators:
Dr. Patrick Conway: CEO of Care Solutions at Optum, former CMS official focusing on value-based care.
LinkedIn: Dr. Patrick Conway
Dr. Amol Navathe: Assistant Professor of Health Policy at the University of Pennsylvania, expert in healthcare delivery and payment models.
LinkedIn: Dr. Amol Navathe
These speakers and topics can provide deeper insights and further the conversation on transforming healthcare systems, integrating AI and data, and addressing behavioral health and end-of-life care.
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Ep 101 Provider to Partner: Transform Healthcare Systems: Norma A. Padron, PhD, Corbin Petron, Jacob Reider, MD